How does your VA compensation interact with your Navy Reserve paycheck?
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MILPERSMAN 7220-380 states that members may elect to receive either the payments for current military pay or the entitlements for past military service.
PFA Cycle – Thoughts to Consider
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Enlisted Eval Writing: Load for Bear
The Forgotten Mission of the Navy Reserve:
As a Citizen Sailor, we serve in our communities. Many of these communities would not be considered traditional Navy towns, as they are not near a major port, fleet concentration area, or, in some cases, even near a major body of water. It is in those communities that the Navy Operational Support Center and the Reserve Sailor become the single most important recruiting “tool” that the Navy possesses. Without the NOSC or Reserve Sailor, these communities may never be directly exposed to the Navy.
Quick and Dirty: Joint Qualified Officer

The Reserves has roughly 300 billets on the joint duty assignment list (JDAL). There are two types of joint duty: standard (S-JDA) and experience based (E-JDA). You must serve in a JDA billet for 2 years to accrue any credit towards qualification. Tours failing to meet the two year minimum may be accredited with the E-JDA process. More information is available on the PERS webpage.
- JPME I
- Minimum of 12 points must come from joint experience
- 6 points joint training exercises or other education
- OR Full Joint Tour and JPME Phase Id
JPME III JQO
- JPME II or AJPME
- 36 points of joint credit
- Certificate by the SECDEF
- Minimum of 24 points must come from joint experience
- Max of 12 points come from training, exercises and other education
- Formal Designatino as JQO
- JQO is required for appointment to O-7
S-JDA Process
- Selected for Joint Assignment in Apply
- Member submits documents for each year points for certification.
- After assignment, member verifies the points.
AQD Codes:
JS1: Full JOME
JS2: Full Joint Tour Credit
JS4: Joint Qual II
JS5: Joint Qual III/JQO
JS7: JPME I
JS8: JPME II
JSA: AJPME Graduate
Quick Answer: What Does It Mean to Be Cross Assigned?

- If you are Cross-assigned, you should do your best to contact/stay in contact with your unit.
- You should drill at your home unit once per quarter (that unit CO should be signing your Fitrep).
- Your administrative records could be at one NOSC while your operational/training records are at another.
The VA’s Answer to Accounting for Drill Days Each Month in Your Benefit Disbursement
VA Response to Monthly Witholding Question
“Dear Mr. Knight:
This is in response to your inquiry to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) dated May 14, 2014.
For the service you have performed for our country, we are grateful. Thank you for your sacrifice.
Unfortunately, it does note quite work that way sir.
Annually, the Defense Manpower Data Center (DMDC) sends a VA form 21-8951, Notice of Waiver of VA Compensation or Pension to Receive Military Pay and Allowances, to reservists and guardsmen.
Waiver Requirements
Inactive duty training pay or active duty pay cannot be paid concurrently with VA benefits and a waiver must be filed annually. It is usually advantageous for the Veteran to waive disability benefits. However, the Veteran may waive drill pay in order to receive full compensation.
Reduction of VA benefits
VA does not create an overpayment on drill pay adjustments. Reduction is made prospectively (in the future) based on the rate in effect during the last day of the fiscal year the training actual took place. A fiscal year runs from October 1 through September 30.
For example, Fiscal year 2007 began October 1, 2006, and ended September 30, 2007. If training occurred during FY 2007, the rates in effect on September 30, 2007, are those on December 1, 2006.
If a Veteran was drawing a temporary 100%, the withholding is based on the permanent rate in effect at that time.
Effective date Reason Code Entitlement Code Dependents Total Award Net Award Type Withholding
06-01-2008 19 01 10/10 568.00 12.00 1 556.00
08-04-2008 19 01 10/10 568.00 568.00 0
If a service-connected Veteran, with an evaluation of 40% and a dependent spouse, completed 63 training days during FY 2007, VA would withhold the rate in effect and pay the difference to the Veteran. Our M12 screen would show as follows:
Counting of Training Time
Inactive Duty Training — On drill weekends, each four-hour training session counts as one day to be waived. So, a drill weekend would be four paydays.
Active Duty Training — For two-week summer camp, each day attended counts as one day to be waived.
In computing the number of days VA benefits must be waived, any authorized travel time for which service pay and allowances are paid is included.
Each month is considered 30 days no matter how many days are actually in the month.
Completing VA Form 21-8951
VA Form 21-8951 mailed to the Veteran will give the individual the following options:
(a) The Veteran can check a box indicating agreement with the number of drill days printed on the form and agree to waive a corresponding number of days of VA benefits, OR
(b) The Veteran can indicate that the number of drill pay days shown on the form is incorrect, enter the correct number of days, have the commanding officer or designee sign the form, and agree to waive a corresponding number of days of VA benefits, OR
(c) The Veteran can indicate that he/she received no drill pay during the fiscal years shown on the form with the commanding officer’s or designee’s signature, OR
(d) The Veteran can elect to waive drill pay in order to receive VA benefits.
Notification of VA action
Inform the Veteran that VA will send a letter informing him or her of the amount withheld and the date full compensation benefits will be restored. If the Veteran does not agree with the amount of days benefits were withheld, the Veteran may appeal the decision.
VA Form 21-8951 Is Not Returned to VA
If there is no response within 90 days from a Veteran who was sent VA Form 21-8951, then three copies of the form are generated by the computer system in Hines, IL. Two copies are sent to the Regional Office of jurisdiction and one copy is sent to Central Office.
The Regional Office will send a due process letter to the Veteran along with one copy of VA Form 21-8951. The Veteran is to complete and return the form within 65 days from the date of the letter. If the Veteran fails to respond to the due process letter, then the Regional Office will adjust the award according to regulations.
Manual Reference: M21-1MR Part III subpart v Chapter 4 Section C
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Reserve Retirement Math: Converting Your Points to Cash Money
Some SELRES were sitting around one drill weekend, waiting on NKO to come back up and trying to figure out exactly how much a drill point was worth. Being a reservist is like dealing with airline miles or getting tickets at the arcade, their value is tough to determine because they are valueless outside of their own system. We know there plenty of retirement calculators out there that can take your years of active service and drill weekends and total points amassed and give you a number, but what is a point really worth? Beyond national pride and patriotism, why should you take the time to log in to NKO and do anything beyond the minimum?
Against all odds, we did the math to figure out what the monetized value of a single point was based on the lowest standard ranks of retirement E-6 and O-4. If you’re a retiring O-3 LDO, then swag it somewhere in between.
As a retiring sailor, your standard pension is 1/2 of you base pay at 20years. In the reserves, 1 day of active duty = 1 point. Take 20 years and multiply by 365 which give you 7,300 points in a 20 year active duty retirement for 50% of your base pay.
Therefore 7,300 points = 50% your base pay.
As an E-6, the 2014 monthly base pay at 20 years is $3,687.30 . Divided by two, this leaves $1,843.65 which is the monthly payout of an active duty 20 year retiree. Then taking $1,843.65 and dividing by 7,300 points, you get $0.253 per month per point. If you figure a standard drill weekend is 4 points plus completing a couple of NKO courses, you’re accruing a future pension payout of $1.00 – $1.50 per month for every drill weekend you complete, plus getting paid for the weekend on top of that.
Just to restate clearly, each NKO course worth 1 point nets you an added $0.253 per month in pension payout. Rates go up from there if you promote or become an officer.
On the officer side, as an O-4 the 2014 monthly base pay at 20 years is $7,356.60. Divided by two, this leaves $3,678.3. Then taking the $3,678.3 and dividing by 7,300 points, you get an added $0.504 per month per point. You can extrapolate from there.
The numbers go up from there if you promote beyond the minimum retiring ranks.
So what’s the moral of the story? Every little NKO course helps you achieve a little more for your pocket. To prove the point, we calculated that an O-3 who gets out at 6.5 years and completes 7 points in NKO courses per month then retires as an O-6 at 30 years can add an EXTRA $1,400 to the pension check every month just from NKO courses alone. In other words, the Captain raised his pension payout from 28% to 42% of his final base pay.
Not a bad payout for fighting NKO for a couple hours every month.
That’s how it works in theory, being able to execute that over 30 years is a different story.
Again, we welcome feedback and constructive criticism.